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Embracing Uncertainty & Radical Curiosity with Leo Babauta

Curious Humans with Jonny Miller

June 22, 2019

76 minutes

Leo Babauta is the prolific writer of Zen Habits who is joining me from the distant island of Guam 7,400 miles away. Here are a few tasters for what to expect in this wide-ranging conversation:

๐Ÿ˜จ How Zen Habits evolved into his mission to help others push into their uncertainty.

๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐ŸŽ“ How Leo unschooled and de-programmed his kids to facilitate their own natural state of curiosity.

๐Ÿš€ Leo's compelling case for why a fully-optimised life would actually suck and risks being the most controlled boring thing possible.

๐Ÿ’ช Developing and training 'radical curiosity' to dive inwards even when you don't like what you're seeingโ€”how to hold the pose when you're entire body wants to shut down and run.

๐Ÿคผ What he's learned about learning and his no-holds-barred debate with Tim Ferriss on the idea of abandoning goals.

๐Ÿง˜โ€โ™‚๏ธ The incredible Zen Habits origin story โ€“ his path from being in debt, overweight, a smoker and feeling miserable to escaping debt, gaining a following of over a million readers, publishing books on habit-change, finding joy and even running an ultra-marathon!


๐Ÿ“ Read the Full Transcript here over on Medium

โ“Listener Question >> โ€œHow do you feel about the balance between achievement and appreciation?โ€ Tag @jonnym1ller on Twitter or Instagram.


๐Ÿ™ Join Leo's new Fearless Academy and support his mission.

๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐ŸŽ“ Learn more about his Sea Change Habit Academy

๐Ÿ–‹๏ธ Join over 2 million readers of Leo's Zen Habits

๐Ÿฆ Find Leo on Twitter @Zen_Habits


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Heinali who generously provided the musical accompaniments.

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